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    replacing 2wire modem

    Hi people, im on Singnet Fibre plan 200mbps plan. Is it possible to replace the black 2wire modem they provide us with other brands like etc linksys ,dlink? my MIO tv is connected to the modem as well.

    Please advice

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    If im not wrong, MIO TV can only work with the 2wire modem.
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    Give up your MioTV, then you can replace the black 2wire modem they provide.

    Alternatively check out this website point 4 onwards : Mini Liew: Bye Bye Singtel's 2Wire 5012NV

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    There are several ways you can "replace" your 5012NV.

    The simplest is to set it to bridge mode, and thereafter, you put a router behind it. You still get mioTV (via the 5012NV), mioVoice (via the 5012NV) and full internet (via the router you put in).

    The 2nd simplest is to use a direct replacement. As far as I know, the Asus RT-N56U is the only direct replacement. You however will lose mioVoice, unless you put the 5012NV back into the set-up.

    The last alternative is already mentioned here, which is to put a smart switch before your router. Singnet fibre (and the others too) uses VLAN tagging for the various services (voice, TV, Internet), so by using a VLAN capable switch, you can then 'route' the various services to different compoents.

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    With regards to the N56U (if you are considering this option, do update to latest firmware), you can get MioTV and internet directly, but for MioVoice, you will either need to use the 2Wire placed behind port 3 of the N56U, or use either software or hardware SIP devices (Linksys PAP2T, various SIP capable dect phones).

    Alternatively, if MioVoice is too cumbersome, you can always tell Singtel to leave you on analog line. They will make arrangements for this such that you will not need to pay the quarterly line fee, just the units you use.

    PS: Btw, Singtel loves to call the 2Wire a modem, but in reality the ONT is the modem. The 2Wire contains an ADSL modem that is irrelevant to fibre.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_ARCHer View Post
    There are several ways you can "replace" your 5012NV.

    The simplest is to set it to bridge mode, and thereafter, you put a router behind it. You still get mioTV (via the 5012NV), mioVoice (via the 5012NV) and full internet (via the router you put in).

    The 2nd simplest is to use a direct replacement. As far as I know, the Asus RT-N56U is the only direct replacement. You however will lose mioVoice, unless you put the 5012NV back into the set-up.

    The last alternative is already mentioned here, which is to put a smart switch before your router. Singnet fibre (and the others too) uses VLAN tagging for the various services (voice, TV, Internet), so by using a VLAN capable switch, you can then 'route' the various services to different compoents.
    Is it confirmed that the Asus RT-N56U can be a direct replacement?
    Why does this link, Mini Liew: Bye Bye Singtel&#39;s 2Wire 5012NV say cannot replace the 2wire directly?

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    thanks for all your reply. somehow can anyone simplify for me haha. Basically i don't mioVoice, just the fibre and mioTV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_ARCHer View Post
    There are several ways you can "replace" your 5012NV.

    The simplest is to set it to bridge mode, and thereafter, you put a router behind it. You still get mioTV (via the 5012NV), mioVoice (via the 5012NV) and full internet (via the router you put in).

    The 2nd simplest is to use a direct replacement. As far as I know, the Asus RT-N56U is the only direct replacement. You however will lose mioVoice, unless you put the 5012NV back into the set-up.

    The last alternative is already mentioned here, which is to put a smart switch before your router. Singnet fibre (and the others too) uses VLAN tagging for the various services (voice, TV, Internet), so by using a VLAN capable switch, you can then 'route' the various services to different compoents.
    bro, from your advice i can just get a that asus router to replace my currently 2wire(black) modem? since i dont have miovoice that shouldent be a issue right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by acme View Post
    bro, from your advice i can just get a that asus router to replace my currently 2wire(black) modem? since i dont have miovoice that shouldent be a issue right?

    thanks
    i read the comments from the page Mini Liew: Bye Bye Singtel&#39;s 2Wire 5012NV someone has already been doing it..

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    Quote Originally Posted by watzzup80 View Post
    Is it confirmed that the Asus RT-N56U can be a direct replacement?
    Why does this link, Mini Liew: Bye Bye Singtel's 2Wire 5012NV say cannot replace the 2wire directly?
    That blog was written in May 2011. Asus released a new firmware that provides support for SingNet Fibre unofficially. Make sure you use the firmware that has the unofficial support.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acme View Post
    bro, from your advice i can just get a that asus router to replace my currently 2wire(black) modem? since i dont have miovoice that shouldent be a issue right?

    thanks
    Yes. Just use the firmware with the Singnet suport. The f version broke the support, but the latest beta may have fixed it. I'm using 2wire in bridge mode rather than using the RT-N56U as a direct replacement because that way, I can switch and test other wireless routers without much worry.

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    Hopefully this helps: 3 ways to replace Singtel Extreme's 2Wire Router
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    Quote Originally Posted by shadowoflight View Post
    Created a post for this.

    Hopefully this helps: 3 ways to replace Singtel Extreme's 2Wire Router
    wow, good stuff gonna read it up later...
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    For those coming up with the guides that passthrough the non-Internet VLANs, do note that the Mikrotik RB250GS is much cheaper than the Cisco managed switch mentioned in the older guide.
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    Quote Originally Posted by &d00 View Post
    For those coming up with the guides that passthrough the non-Internet VLANs, do note that the Mikrotik RB250GS is much cheaper than the Cisco managed switch mentioned in the older guide.
    it can be quite a bitch to configure especially when somethings goes wrong. if someone has to ask, i think recommending them anything Mikrotik is not a wise choice.
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