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    Quote Originally Posted by evanshuang:10971827
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    RB493 + R52Hn is the current best solution.

    RB2011 is the next best choice but you've got to wait.

    OS wise yes, it is not easy to configure if you have no background on Networking.
    base on your recommendation and seeing the pic uploaded by ahduck, RB493 + R52n looks super tempting. How much will everything cost including the housing?

    Configuration wise, I just need this router to support my starhub cable connection and any possible fibre in future, without any requirement for digital voice. Would it be easier in this case? What kind of background on networking should one have on this?
    RB493G set is $444 without antenna including GST. Pigtail is MMCX to SMA.

    It is as easy as installing it with SuperInternet. Same exact steps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wenasong View Post
    RB493G set is $444 without antenna including GST. Pigtail is MMCX to SMA.

    It is as easy as installing it with SuperInternet. Same exact steps.
    Background in TCP/IP, subnet, DHCP and WLAN.
    I assume that would be just the 493 only, without the R52Hn, and board only?

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    Quote Originally Posted by evanshuang View Post
    I assume that would be just the 493 only, without the R52Hn, and board only?
    It is a set.

    RB493G + R52Hn + 2x MMCX to SMA pigtail + CA493 + 1.6A 12V Adaptor.

    Incl GST + 1 year warranty + Delivery from my supplier to my place in Singapore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wenasong View Post
    Same to me. It will be a great SOHO routers.
    Intending to use as a wifi AP cum port multiplier (via VLANs) actually. Setup as AP and VLAN switch for pfSense. Then bridge the LAN VLAN and WLAN segments internally.

    If MikroTik had HFSC for QoS, I'd not mind switching over entirely. Pity that the best it's got is HTB - doesn't do QoS based on 'latency' (delay) parameters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamslacker View Post
    Intending to use as a wifi AP cum port multiplier (via VLANs) actually. Setup as AP and VLAN switch for pfSense. Then bridge the LAN VLAN and WLAN segments internally.

    If MikroTik had HFSC for QoS, I'd not mind switching over entirely. Pity that the best it's got is HTB - doesn't do QoS based on 'latency' (delay) parameters.
    Yup, requested HFSC to Latvia already. For your usage, RB751G-2HnD is still the best choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wenasong View Post
    Yup, requested HFSC to Latvia already. For your usage, RB751G-2HnD is still the best choice.
    Precisely why I'm waiting for it. No much point paying the extras for a RB493B set plus wifi card. Although I do have a 400mW high power Atheros Wifi-G card. Hoping to use the 751G instead to get Wifi-N plus VLANs support and reuse my Dlink 8 port GBe switch or Planex 16 port GBe switch.

    Alternative would be to get a ProCurve 1810-24G and an ESR-9850G or Buffalo WZR-HP-G300NH2 as access point. A bit on the large side though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamslacker View Post
    Precisely why I'm waiting for it. No much point paying the extras for a RB493B set plus wifi card. Although I do have a 400mW high power Atheros Wifi-G card. Hoping to use the 751G instead to get Wifi-N plus VLANs support and reuse my Dlink 8 port GBe switch or Planex 16 port GBe switch.

    Alternative would be to get a ProCurve 1810-24G and an ESR-9850G or Buffalo WZR-HP-G300NH2 as access point. A bit on the large side though.
    I use D-Link DGS-1020-24 for AP and wired client switch. This switch is affordable and works well within my usage. AP wise, I use OmniTiks and RB411AR. The RB411AR is a sub $200 AP with additional miniPCI slots..
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    Quote Originally Posted by wenasong View Post
    I use D-Link DGS-1020-24 for AP and wired client switch. This switch is affordable and works well within my usage. AP wise, I use OmniTiks and RB411AR. The RB411AR is a sub $200 AP with additional miniPCI slots..

    Bro, any idea what kind of OpenVPN throughput can you hit on the RB493G with BF-CBC-128?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamslacker:10977457
    Quote Originally Posted by wenasong View Post
    I use D-Link DGS-1020-24 for AP and wired client switch. This switch is affordable and works well within my usage. AP wise, I use OmniTiks and RB411AR. The RB411AR is a sub $200 AP with additional miniPCI slots..

    Bro, any idea what kind of OpenVPN throughput can you hit on the RB493G with BF-CBC-128?
    Haven't tried OpenVPN features yet, only using L2TP PPTP and SSTP.
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    Nice to see a community group here for mikrotik users!

    Just gotten my RB250GS + RB450G combo not too long...

    Don't think i'm fully exploiting its potential at the moment.

    Just curious, what do you guys pump through your routers anyway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dEthANGeL View Post
    Nice to see a community group here for mikrotik users!

    Just gotten my RB250GS + RB450G combo not too long...

    Don't think i'm fully exploiting its potential at the moment.

    Just curious, what do you guys pump through your routers anyway?
    Updated the list of users....

    What I pumped through RB.

    The Outdoor RB800 is for delivering Internets to local community using 2 Sectoral Dual Pol and 2 Omnis.

    The RB1k and RB800 is used for VRRP and MPLS in multiple POPs.

    The RB493G is home router, running PPTP, L2TP and SSTP, EoIP to RB1100 for Layer2 connectivity.

    RB450G backup router for one of the POP.

    Omnitik and RB-SXT is paired to do PtMP connectivity + meshed together with the RB800.
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    Hmm...
    RB493G + R52Hn S$420?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kohroyston View Post
    Hmm...
    RB493G + R52Hn S$420?
    $448 with adaptor 1.6A, 2x MMCX to SMA pigtail, 2x 5dBi antenna, CA493 case.

    Incl GST for CIF larger than $400, No escape for this..

    Price is based on current USD to SGD conversion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dEthANGeL View Post
    Nice to see a community group here for mikrotik users!

    Just gotten my RB250GS + RB450G combo not too long...

    Don't think i'm fully exploiting its potential at the moment.

    Just curious, what do you guys pump through your routers anyway?
    Not using a MikroTik for routing but pfSense instead and have been for years.

    At home, it's mostly for QoS and handle massive connections. I can hit 160,000 connections on a single PC torrenting. Also for OpenVPN so that I can tunnel home from my laptop. Suckhub's BBOM is pathetic. I get a typical 60 - 70Kbit/s bandwidth connecting to non-local servers. But I can get 1 - 1.5Mbit/s connecting locally. So tunneling home allows me to get local connectivity speeds even when I'm browsing/ downloading from overseas websites.

    For business, it's mainly for ensuring that 40+ clients have lag free online gameplay even when a few users are streaming videos.

    HFSC does wonders if you know how to configure it properly. Even when the connection is close to saturating the bandwidth, the router can still allow games and voip apps to go through without lag.
    So it's about having the best of both worlds - maximizing usable bandwidth for downloads but also ensuring that latency sensitive applications don't suffer from lag.
    By far and large, it's practically the only QoS algorithm that factors in delay in addition to bandwidth for handling policies. However, it's also one of the least understood algorithms and one of the most complex as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamslacker View Post
    Not using a MikroTik for routing but pfSense instead and have been for years.

    At home, it's mostly for QoS and handle massive connections. I can hit 160,000 connections on a single PC torrenting. Also for OpenVPN so that I can tunnel home from my laptop. Suckhub's BBOM is pathetic. I get a typical 60 - 70Kbit/s bandwidth connecting to non-local servers. But I can get 1 - 1.5Mbit/s connecting locally. So tunneling home allows me to get local connectivity speeds even when I'm browsing/ downloading from overseas websites.

    For business, it's mainly for ensuring that 40+ clients have lag free online gameplay even when a few users are streaming videos.

    HFSC does wonders if you know how to configure it properly. Even when the connection is close to saturating the bandwidth, the router can still allow games and voip apps to go through without lag.
    So it's about having the best of both worlds - maximizing usable bandwidth for downloads but also ensuring that latency sensitive applications don't suffer from lag.
    By far and large, it's practically the only QoS algorithm that factors in delay in addition to bandwidth for handling policies. However, it's also one of the least understood algorithms and one of the most complex as well.
    Maybe DSCP + HTB do a similar job.
    DSCP based QoS with HTB - MikroTik Wiki
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